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a 12-gauge shotgun and have a good defensive effect. and there's the element of surprise. you've got police all over the place in watertown, so i don't really think that this is applicable. i think there are people that want to make this argument, but 12-gauge shotgun, there are many weapons, 2,000-plus weapons that are available to people for choice without an assault weapon. >> we're running out of time. so i'm not going to give you a chance to answer that question, congressman king. i'll give you a chance to answer the other question. this has also spilled into the debate over immigration reform. some conservatives like charles grassley, senator from iowa, are saying, before we reform the system, we ought to focus more on who we let into this country. your response? >> first of all, i don't think it should have a severe impact on the immigration debate. i do think it should focus on whether or not it should be refined, and if people are coming from a country which has terrorist background, if there's a strong terrorist element in that country, there should be extra vetting for peo
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